Last evening he stressed the four things a pastor must do or exhibit. My Word as precedence comes from conviction that faith comes by hearing the Word of God. About 3 minutes. Now we have Didasko. This is interesting. Learn from the Primitive Baptists and early Holiness folks (not todays clergy model) and early Quakers (not todays nonChristian version.). GSD [Getting Stuff Done] wrote: The same is true for many ARC churches. We dont know how intimately accquainted Peter and the other Apostles were with all the Jerusalem believers, but it sounds like their lifestyle would lend itself to knowing each other much better than todays mega church pastor. The meetings are usually an hour long. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are exercised in a corporate setting. I hope you are. The flock is right in holding its paid shepherd role accountable, sadly lacking today. Its high-glycemic index gives a rush of exhilaration as it floods into the bloodstream like pure sugar. I recall attending a church where the congregation would share some testimony, praise, blessing, etc. And like I said, making the pulpit and the weekly sermon the center of our spiritual lives seems odd to me. Its the most important part of the Baptist church, in the eyes of many. He may well love all but he has said that not all survive the judgment. The last time such a position existed was over 3,000 years ago, it was a special circumstance, it was explicitly ordained by the Lord Himself, and it was filled by one who was stated by God to be the most humble man in the history of the world. They will be far better off knowing the Son of God. Is it common for Calvinist pastors to preach almost word for word Piper / MacArthurs sermons on the same exact texts? David Platt had disgraced us with his presence in the UK last year. Tell me want to do/believe, and I will do it, I do not want to figure it my self to much work and, 2. These services advertised themselves via students in seminary, passing around flyers and CDs. He wont sacrifice financially. It is not a place where 1 man is in charge. Something is amiss. theres no way it could really take 20-25 hrs per week!!! They took me to a new level of understanding Gods Word. Look to Him & His word and learn Honorable Little Christ'(tm) , share what youve learned with others, The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever. I agree with pretty much all the critique here. We worked out a formula to give the Sunday school class church a small donation to pay for our seat and the heating, etc. Ive even seen multi-media pastor. One time my former FIEC church had Don Carson come to preach and my friends were so excited by it. i would love to see an accounting illustration, showing how much each tax payer in a pastors neighborhood has to contribute to cover the shortfall of the public services which the pastor enjoys and expects. He Didnt Love Being a Police Officer. David Platt (ThM, PhD, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary) is the pastor-teacher of McLean Bible Church, founder of Radical, and a Council member of The Gospel Coalition. It is a very odd collection of characters. Of course there are many in between, but I continue to be amazed how many people do not put much thought into what they do and say.. our immediate culture is makin this worse. She would send me links and all kinds of stuff and say she swears it is all linked together somehow with these guys. He basically made it sound like unless you were Elder material you shouldnt be a missionary. Apparently this post is getting a lot of play out there. Personally, this is sad because we have a long-ago connection to McLean Bible. Head pastor, lead pastor, teaching pastor, senior pastor, preaching pastor, associate pastor, assistant pastor, worship pastor, music pastor, youth pastor, college pastor, building services pastor, executive pastor Yes marketing is creating more customers, and increased investment in distribution helps to deliver the product and access to more markets; but a shifting of resource allocation and cost-cutting measures are needed. Mike Wittmer : LZ Granderson, a member of Rob Bells church and a regular contributor to CNN and ESPN, wrote a column today for CNN.com which illustrates the problem that I try to correct in the first two chapters of I try to use gender inclusive language, but I dont bend over backwards. That idol of Authoritarianism is the reason, IMO, that the competing factions of Calvinists and Traditionalists have been willing to make at least the appearance of peace in the SBC. All this flies under the radar. @ AnonInNC: WebDavid Platt is a great example of a man who may have a speech impediment yet the listener is captivated by his genuine passion for the gospel. Example: did the church meet in individual homes? @ Mandavilla: @ Deb: @ Gram3: You can read between the lines Im sure and see how the David Platt thing fits into all of this. What does any of this have to do with God? Platt did not make it up nor is it original with him. As all were replaced their titles changed with the word pastor not minister. To follow my last commentthey have also hosted Mark Dever for a conference titled Growing Healthy Churches most ironic! Then have an affair and take a sabatical for recovery purposes while your church still pays you. Seminary professor. The role of the pastor is to embody the gospel. Of course, if the Trustees were transparent, we would not be speculating. Most bakeries by this time will start feeling the cash flow pinch. It certainly wasn't dealing with parents extreme mental illness for 30 years, health problems of both sets of departed parents raising my sister when we had a new baby and the teenage junk she put us thu, it certainly wasn't when my husband lost the use of arm to a accident and spent a year at p.t , it certainly wasn't when my accident caused me a bum leg and I still do my housework dragging it around. It is a sad fact of mega-church psychology that people like to be associated with stars. David Platt to Be a Teaching PastorIs it a Bridge Too Far for the IMB President? The Creator takes precedence, and His revelation of Himself is central. Why if Aunt Tilly is sick we think the head shamans prayers are needed more than our next door neighbor sister or brother in Christs prayers? The amount of cash these guys make for their seminaries & their megachurches I briefly attended McLean Bible Church, pastored by Lon Solomon, back in the mid-1980s. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. (or is it just me) Like when he says Can't Keep, InsignifiCance, and a face in the Clouds; just a few examples. Pod People do not need more than a podcast, and are very easy to manage. He could have one or not, but telling everyone when you first meet that he does NOT tells you something and its not a positive thing. Most pastor positions are salaried. More amazing is members will do so. okrapod, They are not supposed to be, as they are not supposed to exist. Those things cannot be torn apart and pitted against each other; they are part and parcel of the whole. Wow, I really hope he does not return to full time pastoring. Im not so sure God is so worried about all our acronyms..SBC, IMB, etc Is not our mission unity in love Making disciples, preaching the word to all nations? We were rather shocked about his attitude toward pastoring. I use Word, revelation, and proclamation almost inter-changeably. It is also a biological code. If I baked you 10 cookies but one had poison would you eat one or just throw the entire batch out? This is one of the things my church actually makes a concerted effort to doopen the facilities throughout the week to various groups. We do need to do both seek the LORD, seek the lost. I am sure my staff are wondering why I laughed so loudly a moment ago. Was Peter a pastor to these souls or just a talking head? I think there is more going on. Whats wrong for you may be right for another believer and vice versa. Sorry to be so long winded but it annoys me to no end to see a ministry that I personally experienced turn into something so at least to me foreign to a Biblical standard of fellowship. We both know the answer, yet dont follow this when we have someone adding their own agenda. Count it all joy to pay the cost and reveal His worth! Having been in SBC churches for 20 years, I can honestly say that most megachurch sermons are shallow and quite devoid of teaching of Scripture. And it is He himself, the Jesus of keep my commandments who says to some depart from me No pastor that is paid full-time could say that and be hired or kept on in a Baptist church. Cant leave much time for family. Platt tries to have it both ways. He wants to affirm the Bibles commands and then wants to finesse allowing people into the church who vote for policies that God prohibits. Then, Platt reveals his key concernsome people might get their feelings hurt. I may be reading too much into your comments. All believers do have access, yes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MdQINUBlPno We are called to be like the Bereans in Acts 17:11, so the more I followed up with Davids teaching I found that he plays fast and loose with Gods word. I am not convinced the humility David Platt exhibits is real, considering his celebrity status and the lack of persecution from the world. I believe he is fitting in quite nicely with the harlot institutional church, using the Name of our LORD for his own personal glory. Paul talks about the fellowship of His sufferings. In many of them, and also non-denoms, they are both shallow AND long. I attended McLean Bible for about 4 years starting in 2000 and it certainly wasnt Neo Cal then. He is just a big idea guy. If one uses the Big Show/Event as an evangelistic/attractionistic tool, how does that align with scripture, with worship, and with the definition of church. David Tennant is dying to work with Aaron Sorkin. I would also spend the other 20-25 hours getting to know the people and doing visitation-type activities. This leaves the door wide open for our congregation to see areas of leadership where they are needed, and to respond accordingly.. WebHearing Aid & Speech Issues Explored. We wouldnt if they said they wanted a pole dancer, a stripper, and free beer. The wonder of it all is that God still honors His Bread. That seems super deceptive to me. Based on that I was planning to make MBC my home church. I literally LOLed.. Not only, but Sunday morning worship service public proclamation is the churchs most visible act. Perhaps it could be in a negative senseIOW, everything this man said to do, do the opposite. Only You, Jesus can show this blind man who looks!, Have Calvinism, Will Stealthy Creep, Perhaps?. These pastors faithfully execute the responsibilities of their jobs. They say they study and write sermons for 20-25 hours a week. Here is a cautious, rather underwhelming, statement from the trustees att the IMB: Our president, Dr. David Platt, has expressed a deep sense of calling to serve as teaching pastor of McLean Bible Church while also continuing to lead the International Mission Board, Dilbeck said. Also surprised MBC would go for this. Just suggesting we might try doing things His way if we want them to turn out well. Im not so sure God is so worried about all our acronyms..SBC, IMB, etc Is not our mission unity in love Making disciples, preaching the word to all nations? The academy serving the Church is not explicit in scripture. Church Discipline but then disillusioning applies to so many issues relating to this silly religion of mine. If one person does happen to have a message that the church feels is important to be shared across all the campuses, then that person can travel around and deliver the message in person. And therein lies the rub. He may well love all but he has said that not all survive the judgment. Overhead is a thing that happens every single day regardless of how many people show up. Almost all words have their origins in the verb forms. He paid it lip service in the introduction, but did not believe it as a sign of health. The model in the New Testament was shared leadership. Youre modeling New Testament now? I am sure David Platt is a nice guy. Can someone explain to me how you can spend 20-25 hours a week preparing a sermon? But even on the most complicated issues, Ive never spent 20-25 hours just preparing for a meeting. The produce being sold includes commercial growers, according to the signs on their pickup trucks. Books. No vote, no discussion, just heres who it is, like it or not. Perhaps he isnt really so committed to being radical? Oh wow Lydia, now you are getting into the territory that my daughter was discovering when she was at school in Baltimore and dating an SGM man. * But that is in keeping with his I sacrifice and live in the bad part of town for the gospel even though I travel all the time and so only my family really has to endure living there from day to day.. I point all this out and this is just one mans opinion to say that it seems McLean Bible Church sort of lost its way long before all this David Platt stuff came up. Its also tricky if there is something messy with IMB and NAMB that is as yet undisclosed. I disagree here. They care about as much about the Bible as they do about the truth, about justice, about the Fruits of the Spirit, about Jesus, and about those who have been made in His image. But he is not a pastor at McLean. With a seminary degree???? So, again, how is this guy spending 20-25 hours a week on a sermon? I dont know what triggered you to interpret have to have a man from my text. It is a very unusual pastoral position that David Platt is undertaking. Anyway, I love that, and I love Ed's voice! Must be a slow reading inefficient thinker.). Yes but the issue of him and Calvin being promoters of Valentinian Gnosticism was put to bed a long time ago. Having been in SBC churches for 20 years, I can honestly say that most megachurch sermons are shallow and quite devoid of teaching of Scripture. You cant have it both ways and these special privileges may prove to be a future rationalization for govern, And the churches want to remain tax exempt, but they certainly do want to benefit from the taxes others pay in: They say the importance of the sermon is a reason they cant have any interaction with the congregation. If youre a religious figure, you can designate some portion of your income (up to a certain point, please consult with your tax advisor) as compensation for housing. It looks like he is staying on. I dont believe providing free spaces to commercial growers and businesses should be considered a community service. So if it is the means then why are people upset when Platt says that people need to get with it regarding the means? He actually knew my name and used it. My husband had tears in his eyes. http://www.christianebooks.com/TheGrahamFormulaDownload.pdf. Nor are they necessary for a body of believers to function. ___ the placid, smiley response is the wrong one. Then I had to remember all the sermons I had listend to and how deeply moved I was by his heart for Missions and Jesus. Even during a famine, the lowly, needy, hungry lepers find bread in another camp (1 Kings 7:9) the presence of their enemies, and proclaim the Good News that will end the famine. Podcast in Person reminds me of the scary movie. David Platt ended that dream. I have mentioned the FIEC network in the UK and they are selling themselves out to the Go$$$pel Coalition. I dont know of any other job where an employee is granted 2 months of vacation after working for 6 months. We believers are all priests, Jesus is our high priest, and we were not supposed to embrace this pagan shamanism nonsense to begin with. One guy is not so indispensable and amazing that we need a video feed of him; it can be done by a real person in the location. Of the available 52 weekly Friday morning sermons (church in the UAE is held on Friday, Sunday is the first day of the work week) Folmar spoke at exactly half of them 26. 14 When the people saw him[b] do this miraculous sign, they exclaimed, Surely, he is the Prophet we have been expecting![c] 15 When Jesus saw that they were ready to force him to be their king, he slipped away into the hills by himself. Jn 6:15. Pastoral care fits, here. In kind renumeration is not a salary as you mention. (And to be accurate, he preached only 20 of 25 weeks in his first 6 months on the job, so he has effectively had 3 months off in his first 8 months of his job.). The shared leadership not taking full-time pay checks from their fellow believers, perhaps? April 2004. @wartwatch @ThouArtTheMan Would be interesting to see the pay-per-view history from the NAMB guys staying in those rooms. elastigirl wrote: Sort of forcing the choice on the people is what it looks like to me. Why a building, and a pastor if they are going to refuse to do any of the real work of the church? You could pull a gateway and just pipe them in. Have you considered that its because most megachurch pastors care very little about Scripture, as thats just not the point? Its the wrong place for them and they ought to go out and look for a better fitnot quotes from the letter, but a general impression I have retained from reading that Mailbag article a few years ago. * For the life of me Ive never understood, either, why we think we need someone to hold our hands when someone dies besides the Body of Christ. Or when the weekly sermon is the main source of our biblical sustenance. I think that last bit is important. Look for a church in which the pastor knows your name and will sit by your bedside when you are in the hospital. And the Global Replace String man With String person' approach gets pretty silly. We dont usually see it that way if the way we want things is the way we are used to seeing them. Im sick of that garbage, especially as used by people like Platt, because that great calling they love to reference is code for My calling is bigger than yours, and if you plebes dont submit, youre against the Lord. Surgeon was able to do a one-step resection without a colostomy. Of course, were they to turn it into a profit center and start renting it out for profit, thatd be different, but nothing in the tax code stops them from performing a community service like that. And just in case you think that we are all sitting around on our duffs waiting for the pastor to do something, I want to reassure you that we are doing lots of things. With my diverticulitis (AKA left-handed appendicitis because the symptoms tend to mirror-image each other), I got into ER a few hours after it popped (equivalent to a burst appendix), but before the peritonitis had a chance to really take hold. I am preparing myself to disciple others. @ ZechZav: @ Hope: Did anything ever become of this at the IMB? It is the body of Christ. Is this confirmed that he is doing it for free? Ill never make that mistake again. Could you comment on that? Conferences. Well, I think its clear what the problem is. How does this work? the name) was not even involved in the Cooperative program when he was appointed. The organizers can gain favor with the Gospel Glitterati by inviting them to the conference? The Anyabwiles can draw a bigger crowd? I explain I cant do funerals, visits, phone calls, or meetings. As a police officer, he was still in his 20s feeling burnt out and over it. Platt writes, In a world full of rights, Jesus says, If youre going to follow me, you must die every single day to the rights you claim in order to do anything and That is simply not a position that exists in the New Testament. Our forefathers knew that the study of Gods Word and prayer was the foundation for ministry. Isnt all scripture is inspired by God ad profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness in order to do good works (2 Tim 3:17-8)? My son is also in his prime (26) which certainly helps recovery. David Eigenberg isn't deaf in real life, thus he doesn't need hearing aids or have speech problems. They throw that stuff out there expecting the sheeple to believe them. I think its all bogus. Those words are astonishing to anyone whos been around the SBC for years. And, while theyre about it, lay hands on and pray for them. . He never chided believers to get out there, knock on doors, join me on mission, serve your community, hand out water bottles at marathons, plant a community garden. Anyone can listen to Platt on podcasts. These friendships take years to cultivate. But the body is more than church life, and the Academy is supposed to serve the Church. What next pants down so we can see his undergarments? These pastors faithfully execute the responsibilities of their jobs, but those who so desire can carve out a fairly cushy lifestyle as a pastor. Jesus refereed to shepherds and called Himself a shepherd a number of times. The quick exhilaration of excitement and energy packaged with brightly colored dyes is an easy sell to the consumer. Im all over the continuum insofar as views go. In the UK there has been a complete silence from UK church leaders about Mahaney. Warning: Calvins ICR is not the true gospel of Jesus Christ, but a clever vicious lie smothering the life out of the Christian believer who seeks to embrace this incessant smoldering darkness. I hear you. When I had (open) abdominal surgery 10 years ago (perforated diverticulitis), it took me a whole month before I could get back to work and seriously restricted diet. Best regards, It leaves in its wake dis-ease. I am certainly not saying that my job is equivalent to giving a sermon at church but I do have to lead the meeting, I have to ask the right questions and ferret out information that people may be unwilling to give (but we tell them up front, this is not a fault-finding exercise). Hmm-methinks my upbringing has given me an entirely different take on what the preacher should be. Arrrgh. Those who know Christ (theo) best are better suited to ministry, not those who know sinners (socio) best. The mission of God, if I may use that term, is the salvation of the world, not just the salvation of me and mine. It looks like it to me. A church in my area was hosting some type of Coffee House service very late on Friday nights. Insidious idolatry always tries to put the created thing ahead of the Creator. Find a pastor who will do your funeral and not punt it to the third tier pastoral staff. This is why ecclessiolgy and philosophy of ministry is so important. Is it a worship service or a rock concert? It is the body of Christ -Rachelle. David is a gifted speaker and inspiring leader. I butted heads with him over working moms and finally over Radical, and after 4 years of having those concerns ignored, my family joined the hundreds of people who left Brook Hills during his time in the pulpit. How is that in any way a thing?! That is it. stroke. Im familiar with the loophole, it is another one of those things that violates my classical liberal sensibilities as does the property tax exclusion that no other non-profit enjoys. Day-to-day leaders of the church living and working shoulder-to-shoulder with all the one anothers? I wouldt read too much into that experience. Every inch of my kitchen counter is covered with stuff. Nope. Find a church in which the pastor knows you name and truly cares about you-not an abstract you who is just a part of a mass of faces. And in most of these churches, members arent allowed to do much ministry either, because they have paid staff for that who make 4-10x more than the average member of the congregation. We are blessed in this country and some others, where we can have buildings and assemble publicly. I actually did. At first I chuckled because it seems obvious to me that pastors who should know the names of those in their congregation. I. They cannot-plain and simple. We have greatly improved our administration (add ministry) for which I am thankful. We do exactly what He said not to do, excusing it with the idea we are contextualizing it for today or that today is different than Bible times, and then get our panties in a wad when things go badly. Thats better left to the students he and Piper appeal to at their annual Cross Conference. But, I try to see every person who comes to me as a long lost brother or sister. hows your son doing, bridget? Even if he does prep his own sermons . He would make a great traveling speaker, which is what he was before he came to Brook Hills. Web9. Nonprofits are one of my fields of research. He will preach without being involved in his church-unless he is cheating in other areas. Unfortunately, churches have become so institutionalized it is almost impossible for that person to do what God meant for them to do. 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